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Balbomb's Blog

July 29 2012

Struggles at Beer Pong

Hey guys, been playing a lot of golf recently in between my grinding. My wife is out of town so a lot of time for both. So far up about 18 bi over the last 3 days, although I still have a lot to work on.

http://weaktight.com/4876857

Man, I need to have my head examined. My buddies and I have a list of certain plays that we should not be doing without a very good reason, I definitely think that 5bet bluffing over a backraise is a good one to add to this list. Really poor play for me, especially at the time where everything was going extremely smoothly and I in no way needed to force this and try to win every play

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Gross, I must say I really feel like I am getting to some of the regs I am playing with; some of the tougher regs that I was struggling with at the beginning of the month I feel like recently have just made some extremely poor plays in response to mine, so there is some consolation there

http://weaktight.com/4876860

So this guy was totally insane, but even when I know he is going to lose his mind, I need to find a better spot than this to call off on the river. Just an absolutely horrendous play by me, and I'm sick to my stomach over how badly I played this river.

http://weaktight.com/4876861

JJ < QQ against 40% 3bet from this position

http://weaktight.com/4876862

Overall I think I am quite happy with the amount that I lost in this spot. I thought that his range consisted of AQ, AJ, and far less combos of TT, KK, and AK. I thought that his overwhelming range based on bet sizing and the battles we had in the past was the AQ/AJ and in particular AQ. Therefore I was also worried because I have check raised him on river in the past with big hands that he might not bet AQ, and I did not think a CR would be the best play, so I thought I could maximize value by donking river, a little unlucky

http://weaktight.com/4876863

Unlucky, have to say this was the most surprising hand he could have showed me here

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Unlucky board runout and strange play by my opponent, I can't say I am disappointed by any street that I played here though, honestly I think that he should be checking to fold river

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Amazing play by my opponent if this one is a bluff

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Tough to bluff him off the hand that I am trying to rep, I think this is a successful triple barrel because even when he hit his backdoor flush he just called, worried about my range

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unlucky

http://weaktight.com/4876876

So some back story on this call, first of all this guy and I have battled a ton, we start tables together and we both know each other are capable of big bluffs and thin value. In this session he called me down with AJ on AK9xx when I had K9, he called me down with A4 on Axxxx button vs sb and I had AT for three barrels of value, so he is certainly aware that I can value bet thinly on these boards, as well as having some triple barrel bluffs in my range. Therefore I thought there were enough factors that would justify a call, but good play by him and I think a pretty unlucky spot given the history between us, particularly the more immediate history.

http://weaktight.com/4880704

With the history, I think this is pretty standard, I also think against certain opponents even with this plan I would call their 3bet.

http://weaktight.com/4880705

Even with AQ bb vs sb, I think this is a very good spot to get the money in preflop

http://weaktight.com/4880706

Probably a pretty suspect call preflop that definitely backfires on me

http://weaktight.com/4880707

http://weaktight.com/4880708
UL

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Failed hero call but I think that is ok

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Pretty standard line with an unlucky board run out

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Super unlucky board runout here

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Literally I am not sure Ive ever been more frustated with a single play in my life. First of all, how many hands have I posted or talked to my friends about where I bet small for value and then called off thinking they were exploiting this line??? They are exploiting me 1/20 times, and then when I combine this with the fact that my session was going so smoothly, it makes no sense to make any other play but fold. I really can't imagine how many times I have made small bets for value and then called justifying it in my own head that I bet small so he can exploit me. There are about 5 regs I could imagine making this bluff, and I had no evidence that this player was capable of it. I was totally tilting after this play even if I was winning a lot of buyins

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Unlucky

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So at the time I gave him a range of 88-TT, Kjss, Kqss, and a lot of heart draws, more than normal, I thought there was a small chance he could bet Kjss for value, bet because my checking range is so weak with the lower pairs, and was really only worried about losing to KQ, so I like my line and pretty unlucky here.

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Ughh, cant believe this is the hand he showed up with, and I really like my triple barrell against this range

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I COULD NOT BE MORE DISGUSTED WITH MYSELF! First of all, I have written a lot about overbets from fish being nutted hands. Secondly, I know that I need to be folding to this hand unless there is a ton of evidence against it. Even though my absolute value hand is so strong, I think that he has two pair plus so often here, I absolutely need to fold here, I am so disgusted here that even though I won 5 bi on this day, I was so mad at myself.

So I was playing beer pong tonight and I am still clueless as to why I am so bad at this game. I used to play AAU bball, certainly can drink more than most people, and just am much worse at this game than I should be. It drives me nuts my overall record at beer pong throughout my life. It feels like I hit the cup's edges like crazy. Any tips you guys can give me?

Going to dinner with my parents for my mom's bday, and then eating crabs and grinding the rest of the night, gl at the tables

Salud!

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July 29,2012

I had a question about the AK hand right at the end of the blog on AJ7fd.

Obviously we lose to J7 in the actual hand, but given that he can have J7o here don\'t we also think he can just be randomly donking around with like AQ/AT/Ax even?

Also, depending on his post flop stats, his check raise can also be clubs, clubs+gutter etc.

I\'m not entirely sure what he\'d do with draws on the turn but I\'ve seen a lot of random idiots limp call A5s utg and then think they were value checkraising/betting on Axx even though it makes no sense.

I generally agree with the fact that overbets arent bluffs but the thing that gets me in this hand is the stack sizes, and the board is super wet...

What\'s he going to do, bet 26 on the turn? He can\'t fold if you shove, if you call he can\'t really bluff, and if he bets 26 and youre drawing hes just giving you better odds to draw cause he\'s going broke on the river anyway..

This makes me think of this overbet shove as more of like a regular pot sized shove (maybe that\'s wrong of me?)

I guess I have 2 questions, 1) do you really hate this call that much? I think I\'ve seen enough random Ax, xcxc hands that even though I\'m not thrilled I\'d still call here depending on his stats.2)if he had bet something weirdish like 24 on the turn what would you have done?

The_Raven

July 30,2012

Against a fish who has shown so little aggression against me over a large sample, yes I definitely hate it. I don't think its possible for him to have AX and I think he raises enough that he cant have AQ. I have seen him passively play one draw in the past so I think that is doubtful as well. I agree with you, that he is not thinking about what the pot to stack size ratio is on the turn, and might occasionally just shove turn because he doesn't know what else to do, but ultimately i just think this line is so strong I need t find a fold. If he bet 24 I would be much happier and stack off. While its still certainly possible he is trying to milk me with a set, I think it is far more likely then for him to be overplaying some sort of hand.

Bottom line, I really think he gave me a way out by just shoving turn here to fold my absolute strong weak relative value hand by his overbet on the turn. Maybe not a massive mistake on my part, but I have been working on this fold in particular a lot in the past week or two and not making it is disappointing

Balbomb

July 30,2012

Okay, cool. Didn't know how passive he was. Thanks. I definitely think its dependent on whether you think villain ever does this with Ax (if he has Ax here I think you can't fold cause there's just so many combos). I enjoy these types of blogs btw, it's a good place to think about a bunch of hands without having to painfully go through my own db.

Cheers

The_Raven

July 31,2012

playing 6 cup I once called everyone of my shots like Babe Ruth, 6 consecutive. need lessons?

jeppg1111

August 08,2012

Yes, my friend is threatening to start calling cups for them to count lol, I can't sink to that level

Balbomb

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